$699.00. I decided to to send Fierce an email basically telling them how disappointed I was with the tight chamber and extractor design issues and failure. I\m relatively new to the channel & website, and it has quickly become a favorite of mine. I own the X-Bolt in 7mm Magnum and it is fantastic. Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.7.5. Id love to give one a good in-depth review, but I havent yet. The CVA Cascade is an exceptional rifle for the price. I am looking for a semi-auto gun for hunting, been looking at the Savage MSR 10 in 6.5 CM and the Smith and Wesson M&P 10 in 6.5 CM (I would really love to see an AR10 in 6.5 PRC). Would this interest you? FRANCHI MOMENTUM ELITE 6.5 CREEDMOOR 24" 3RD BOLT RIFLE - REALTREE EXCAPE / BURNT BRONZE True Price: $ 813.69. One thing I always know I need in any rifle, hunting or range, is accuracy. Stock: AG Composites Alpine Hunter. This post contains affiliate links to help monetize this site. The rings are on a 30mm tube though, which has more surface area pressure from the rings to hold the scope in place. Its an interesting concept but I prefer a traditional bolt. Available in: 6.5 Creedmoor, .308 Win, 277 Sig Fury. If youre patient and know what youre doing. I have not seen a semi-auto in 6.5 PRC, should I wait? It shoots some factory ammo sub moa as advertised but has been and uphill battle to get hand loaded 88grn eldm's to group consistent. The Sig Cross has really become one of my favorite guns to shoot. I had a question on my first rifle purchase. 2023 Backfire LLC, a limited liability company headquartered in Utah, USA. Forearm checkering extends nearly all the way forward, ending just short of another molded-in and recessed sling swivel mount. However, I kill a lot of elk where Im from, and my smaller 6.5s dont produce the knock down effect I had with the Weatherby. An innovative modern design with folding buttstock, pistol grip. Same as you, I wish the offerings were a bit better. Do you have any experience with the Franchi? My loads averaging 3050 fps with the 162gr eldx. I cannot give a better example than that. Love you work and your research is unparalleled. I owned one and sold it. Keep up the great work. He has managed multiple gun ranges, and has hunted around the world. Jim, Ive owed most of the brands youve mention here. Wish I discovered your content sooner and thankful for all your hard work. I have one in 308 and Federal premium 168grain Berger hunter (or hunter hybrid, cant remember now) shoot less than an inch at 100 yards, but now they are hard to find. I dont see the stock being much different really. Im not the person I asked the question but I am also looking at one chambered and 308 and another shop down the road has a 30-06. I was all ready to order the Fierce but I see your post above and now I am on the fence. Theres also no shortage of cartridges that send a 6.5mm bullet at much higher velocities than the Swede so I have to assume by your metric those are all superior to the Swede? The reason I put the CVA Cascade above the Ruger American is: (1) It has a better action with more reliable feeding, (2) Its stock is more rigid, (3) It doesnt have a super loud safety like the Ruger American, which I found to be tricky to hunt with. Any suggestions would be appreciated. So if you are shooting 300 win mag, will it throw inaccurate shots on the 3rd shot (or even the 2nd)? and the weathermark? Jan 18, 2020 #3 C clockworkgator BarrelLength: 22 inches My main gun is a Tikka T3 in 30-06. Both have V block bedding blocks (But Ruger's are Y blocks for pillar bedding the action bolts.) All good options, but Id go with the Cross if youll be using it for any backcountry hunting. PS. So it is not a 700 rem action like the Bergara, So no MDT chassis at this time to match. If you want an accurate rifle with a threaded barrel and a decent trigger, it doesnt seem like you can go wrong with this one for under $500. The Sig Cross is the rifle that I have consistently used more than any other hunting rifle in my gun vault. Im considering a modern Win 70 as well. Also, what about the Bergara MG Lite with their proprietary carbon barrel? Ive got a line on a used Seekins Havak Element in 6.5 PRC. First available in 1936 for Petes sake. Been following your channel for a few years and have loved all the reviews. There is one drawback to the Tikka T3x Lite. How may races are there and is idiot one? (I\m in Denver and could use a road trip). Gun #: 999725884. Hi Jim, I load for better, but what would you choose? Try that some time with a modern made low budget piece of shit. Both good guns, I would worry about Franchi suddenly stopping production of this rifle and parts availability going to zero. I have purchased about 12 different rifles in the sub-$500 price point over the last 3 years to test out for this review. Thanks. Wow, what a shooter! Your primary con towards the Weatherby was around the cost of the company\s \boutique\ cartridges. $599.99. Any chance you would do a review on that caliber? To wit: 1. Hi Jim love your content I was wondering if you had a chance to fire a Benelli lupo I own one and love it also have a Tikka tac t3x a Daniel Defense delta 5 pro a accuracy International at. I think in theory controlled feed is better, but they also generally dont feed well (or at all) if you try to feed by dropping one in, rather than mag feeding. I have watched your reviews on both, so maybe your opinion on whether itd be worth the additional money To go with the Waypoint. I'll stick with my Tikkas, they make me happy! If you are looking at that sub $1000 rifle check out the Bergara Wilderness Ridge (Mine was $850). Really enjoy your advice and reviews on guns and equipment, I appreciate your opinions. I have mostly x bolt now and really like them but dont think onyx chassis is made for brownings so thinking the tikka t3x but wanted your opinion. Just hasnt been available. Get one , in 30-06 for the purest experience , and youll be convinced ! I understood going into it that it was a boutique and emotionally motivated cartridge choice, but the performance and build quality is excellent. Id love to hear if the model 70 is still relevant. Jeremy strives to collect objective data whenever possible, and looks to write accurate reviews that reflect the true user experience. Kimber Mountain Ascent Subalpine I just dont like the Kimber Mountain Ascent. $1,299.00. I know there will be a lot of hate because Ive been very frank about my opinions, but I test so many rifles that I just wanted one single post that I keep up to date where I can just say it how I see it without any politically correct crap. . Jim, I own a 6.5-.300 Wby and reload my own ammo. $699.00. In regards to the CVA and the Bergara, Im looking at getting one or the other in 7mm Mag. First of all, LOVE all of your video reviews !! Thank you. The reason I am more interested in an AR instead of a bolt action is because: I would like to have an adjustable stock for hunting in multi layers of clothing and backpack straps, the need to adjust my length of pull is important. Im not sure why Bergarra and other premium manufacturers dont do this but Im sure theres a reason. The action is butter smooth and the stock has a palm swell the sold me when I first picked the gun up. I do like the 300wm type power but its been a challenge researching top recommendations. New for 2021: Franchi Momentum Elite Rifle - YouTube 0:00 / 1:38 New for 2021: Franchi Momentum Elite Rifle NRApubs 129K subscribers Subscribe 148 24K views 1 year ago American Hunter Executive. a few few hundred cycles smoothed it right up. Jim, Love your channel and have spent most likely 30 plus hours reviewing your videos. Its an EXCELLENT do-all caliber. I want your opinion on there trigger system. when buying a boltaction rifle to be used for hunting,do you prefer a safety that locks the bolt down,or one that allows you to work the action.I prefer the type that locks the bolt. However, Ruger American rifles are not perfect. I was pretty confident in the 110 Ultralight that I found locally for a hair under $1000 but your updates here are making me rethink that. Some day Ill give one a more fair look. My 2 favorite calibers are 270( I have 6 of them) and 300H&H ( one pre 64 Winchester Model 70 and one Cooper). Also would be cool to see you do a semi-custom rifle (Bighorn action, prefit barrel, Ag composites stock, trigger tech, etc.) Model 70s and tons and tons of various 98 Mauser rifles ranging from converted low cost military guns to commercial Mausers that cost thousands. If so, what are you impressions of it. How about a Bergara Wilderness Ridge in 7 mag? I wish more gun writers would be as informative. Its a scaled down, lighter weight Sako TRG action with a Sako barrel and trigger. Great choices, Andrew. i have a momentum in .308. stock looks a bit odd, but handles my frame very well. Every Weatherby Ive ever shot has been exceptionally accurate and well-built. Had a question, What are your thoughts/opinion on the Wilson Combat AR10s? COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. Its a 3-lug design with a decently large extractor and ejector and large locking lugs. Thanks again and I look forward to future content. BTW unless youre reloading, the vast majority of factory 6.5 Creedmoor is quite a bit faster than the same projectile in 6.555. Ill be using it in the Southern Rockies for context. Havent shot it yet, but well see how it performs. hey jim i have a 2022 ridgeline in 308 it shoots 1/4 to 1/2 moa looked a long time and read many bad reviews butt talked to many people and am very happy with mine thanks. Is the quality that good? All six chamberings available in U.S.-market Momentums come with a threaded barrel. We watch all your videos on YouTube. The reason I like the CVA Cascade over the Ruger American is because it has a much more rigid stock, a better action, and it still comes with a quality barrel. Watch my review here. All are captive so you wont lose them. Manse, he actually has a point this time. JavaScript is disabled. Slim Fit Leather Jackets brings this iconic jacket from animation to reality, especially for all the fans of this video game. Those all sound like good options. And a nice walnut stock would have cost them a few more pennies to use. I havent seen you review any CZ rifle, any cause un particular? I own 30-06, i own a 300 win mag , now never pull anything out but the 300 win mag , it is a Browning A bolt with the belly clip , has the sweet spot muzzle break ,that takes care of half of the recoil and have the Remington butt pad . Backfire LLC owns and operates this website. I mean, this is one heck of a tight group! Though the forend wasnt perfectly centered coming closer to the left side of the barrel than the right side it was stiff enough that causing it to contact the free-floated barrel was difficult and wouldnt happen under most typical use. Im holding my breath for the comments section on this post. Any information is greatly appreciated. In fact, I did a whole video showing the limitations of the Ruger American. Floorplate, spring, and follower tilt out. Boy, so many good 7 mags. Jim, No, naturally I forgot to measure and I didnt keep the targets (estimating with the On Target app based on the dimensions of the ammo box, its about 0.45 MOA). Im looking at my first hunter and precision rifle that I can take to the range once a month and go on 2 or 3 hunting trips per year (pig/deer) mostly in California or surrounding states. Jim, any thoughts on the Venture 2 from TC? Great to see honest reviews that are very entertaining hope to see many more. some of us realize we would be charged a certain premium. What do you think of the weight of the gun compared to some of these lightweight carbon stocks? Accuracy * * * * * I am looking for a 6.5 creedmoor bolt action hunting rifle for our place in north central west Texas. I like the fact that you backed your reviews with a substantial reason for the review vs nothing to substantiate the review. I will be hunting suppressed from now on and want to keep my rifle as short as possible. Savage just came out with a Savage 110 carbon predator. A shiny one. Looking at a Seekins Havak in 300 PRC. Dont get me wrong. . Suppressors are DEFINITELY the future, so I wouldnt buy a non-threaded barrel anymore. Seller: Ammo And Arms. I own a Tikka T3 in .300 WSM and love it as my go-to big game hunting rifle. I just bought a Savage Axis II XP in 308 after much research and debate amongst my hunting partners. Hey Jim, love your reviews and videos, just wondering when we might start seeing 7mm PRC rifles becoming more available in stores? Fierce are not perfect but over all compared to everything else on the market there really hard to beat. I have found the majority of shooters have a herd mentality and always believe that the latest is the greatest. Ive been kicking around trying out the 28 Nosler just to pick up a bit more performance at 500+ ranges. The barrel is cold hammer forged with rifling like the Sako (Tikka). I do like the Weatherby rifles as well as Tikkas. Tikka T3X or Franchi Momentum Elite - ALDEER.COM Aldeer.com Copyright 2001-2022 Aldeer LLP. Hey Jim, Solid brass bullet ,which I really like. My personal Ruger American shoots 0.8 groups consistently. Overall, the rifle is kinda heavy so itd be nice to reduce recoil a bit. Vlad is typical progtard. Esp in 7mm-08. Honestly, you need to review one. Its for my 3 teenage daughters (all first year deer tag draws) . So if I review it and love my copy, Id be convincing people to buy one and they very likely may not have the same experience. Hard to go wrong with it for online prices often below $400. One might think that in this price range, youd have a multitude of choices, but in my opinion, there are really only three hunting rifles Id consider. Italy has crazy gun control laws, like most of Europe. Just doing a bit of research on the Momentum because the local gun store has a bunch on sale. Jeremy is TTAG's Deputy Editor, working mostly behind the scenes but, when he attempts to write, he focuses on comprehensive gun & gear reviews. Looks to me like an Apples to Oranges request. It was made for them as a throw back to the Finbear (now Discontinued) Its chambered in 270. Its short, compact, lightweight, sinfully accurate with my handloads, feeds 100%, and adjustable so it fits me perfectly. Italian? Hi Jim, I love your reviews and think you are the best reviewer I have come across. Hey Jim, I think your doing an amazing job on bringing us unbiased information all hunting gear not just rifles. Good Morning Jim Do you know a lot about rifles. The budget rifle video and cartridge wars are among my fav on YouTube for hunting alone. If so have they made any notable changes to this model over previous models? I personally prefer the Bergara B-14 Ridge, but they are all good options. You mention it just once in this string but dont come back to it at all. Im really interested in the Benelli Lupo, any chance your going to get your hands on one of those? The barrel is cold hammer forged with rifling like the Sako (Tikka). The molded-in checkering is clean and sharp but in no way uncomfortable. Appreciate the comment. What do you think of the French after some time? He is a well-known entrepreneur, having started many successful online brands, and lives in St George, Utah. Most people hide their plasticky pieces of shit from their friends if their friends are the old foxes who know what a real gun is. You made your point. Action is amazing and a really great factory trigger. (Momentum 2018 followed by the Momentum Elite 2019). Ive never shot one that couldnt achieve a 1 group at 100 yards. Ive tried a lot of others, including Hornady PH (178gr I think) and Hornady Match 168 gr, and they are lucky to shoot 4 inch group with huge point of impact change. I bought the MarkV Weathermark LT in the .257 WBY. Hi Your reviews and articles are very helpful for us folks that dont have a big gun shop within 150 miles! Im sure the leupold would be better, but for a 700 dollar difference, Ill see how I like the Burris. Nearly every touch-point Ive had with the company shows obvious signs of errors. Whats the pros and cons in your opinion? I want a lightweight rifle that has mild Recoil with ballistics similar to 270 Winchester but in a short action. Its like comparing a Kia against a BMW. Action is very heavy and clunky. Yes its more than that modern piece of shit for $300 but I have found other used Mauser sporters including commercially made ones in the $300 dollar range not once but many , many times. It also really liked this 147 grain MEN stuff that I bought in bulk cheap some years ago basically just for semi-auto plinking use. Bought a vanguard series 2 in 270cant wait to shoot it put a leupold 3x9x50 ..I have 1400.00 in it first expensive gun Ive ever owned.wish me luck, The rifle you are selling that is under $350 thats quiet what caliber is it and who makes it need more information please thank you. One issue that has come up with all three of their guns is having to check and tighten the front and rear action assembly screws. People harp on me for recommending the Weatherby Vanguard because its essentially the same thing as a Howa 1500, but costs more money. Tikka T3X Compact Bolt-Action Rifle - Best .308 Lightweight Hunting Rifle. that blew my mind that an OOB rifle would have that much contact. Im sure a video review by you would certainly help clarify and perhaps sway my views on the Sauer 100s. Well, I picked up a momentum elite in .308, and absolutely love it so far, still deciding on a scope to go on it, but cant wait to get to shooting it. Have you fired the Sako 85 Finnlight? Watch my review here. I hear a lot of people liking the Seekins Havak, but it just hasnt grabbed me. Its very heavy, the straight pull was difficult to work with and made a few of my shots not go off because I didnt quite push it ALL the way forward. Thanks for the content you put out! The ammo is inexpensive and widely available, the recoil in manageable for most shooters, and the cartridge is unquestionably capable of taking elk cleanly. Ok I concede your right to a degree but there are tons and tons of older made deer rifles on the market. However, Ill simply leave this anecdote. I know they are two different price points, but Id love to see a side by side comparison between the 2020 Waypoint and the Savage 110 Ultra Lite. I recommend getting this Ruger American Predator in 6.5 Creedmoor if youll be hunting deer-sized game (or smaller than deer), want to have tons of inexpensive ammo options, and if youll also be using it for target shooting. Vlad is an asshole in general who needs to go away. In our testing, we had all of the guns chambered alike, but as soon as any of the reviewers shot the Tikka after shooting the other rifles, they all commented that the recoil felt heavier. Its a good option for light cartridges, but the light weight and stock design dont make for a good match on heavy cartridges. In this price range, this rifle appears to be a very good value. Today, though, I would buy a Dead Air Nomad or a CGS Hyperion given the choice of anything on the market. XPR has a great barrel (mine was very accurate), free floated; pretty smooth bolt/action for price; same trigger as M70; permacote is durable; stock is better than most in price range. I also have ignored the Winchester M70 for exactly the reason you mentioned. My main criteria is staying sub 6 lbs if I can for the rifle only and sub moa guarantee. I cant say I love the idea of a polymer sling mount with a relatively thin wall to it, but its definitely more out-of-the-way than a protruding stud. Or is the lighter, cheaper, better looking cva more applicable? I looked it up and the barrel profile is exactly the same for bigger calibers. MSRP:$609 (about $450 retail). At present time i run Sakos and Blaser. Great info on the ins and outs of shooting and the rifle reviews. Is the bergara name worth it? Best 5 shot group was .320 so I wouldnt knock the compass for a budget rifle. Do you have any information on the Howa, or an opinion on which way I should. Also, since I\d prefer to keep it to one gun I was more interested in buying a semi-custom gun and was thinking about getting the Fierce Carbon Rogue. It looks to be right @ the very top of weight class Id like, but with the adjustable stock,shape,look & Carbon Barrel, seems to be right in the wheelhouse of what Id like for my larger caliber (wish they had it in .300 PRC) rifle. 80lbs maybe. Not many have been around since they are new this year. Is it worth it? So, here are my quick thoughts on some of the competition for the best premium factory rifle under $2,500. So in general, pick the Tikka T3X Lite if you want a lightweight rifle with a fantastic action, and youre going to be shooting cartridges lighter than a 7mm Rem Mag or .30-06. Overall Length: 42.3 inches (Solid review on your part.). Keep the good work buddy on your show. 3. and three-stage safety. Really, the only thing that keeps me from owning more of them is that I can rarely find them in the chamberings I want. You are using an out of date browser. Store. 150 grain federal fusion groups sub 1inch or better every time. As i get older i am now back to 6,555 and 8x57IS and 308win when it come to calibers but that is more related to the hunting i do than the rifles .Love your tube videos and the fact that you have your own opinions an are not afraid to tell everyone about them. Was very happy with all of it. Im a lefty that has to shoot cross over right handed bolts. So small and packable, and Im getting incredible accuracy out of it. Now I want another one and to get in to some long range and MAYBE some hunting. On the flip side, a 60-degree throw is often not always, but usually stiffer, and this was the case here. I might just know about a new rifle coming in January 2023 that might change your mind, Awesome reviews Jim. what do you think of it? Their ammo is INSANELY expensive, so I wouldnt invest in a Weatherby chambering. I want to buy a new rifle in 30-06. (weight) Id go with the Sako in that case. Maybe not, but I have been caught in down pores and all the morons that were with me came back to the car with rust on their guns but not me. Benelli Lupo should had definitely made the list Better rifle than most others mentioned in my honest opinion. After reviewing and owning over 40 bolt-action hunting rifles, here are are the best of the best. Fancy for an affordable rifle, the Franchi Momentum sports a one-piece, fluted bolt. Newer is not always better. Thanks! Anyway, love the Backfire channel. **sorry for posting this comment on another article, but I guess this is the more suitable article for this discussion. Id prefer 7mm-08, but 6.5 is the newest kid on the block. Travis Skurray from Australia. The stock is among the best I have ever used, its reasonably lightweight, excellent on accuracy, and the manufacturing quality is reliable. That\s not a total game changert now there are other choices. Holy Moses, what an incredible rifle. Now they are North of $400. Not a Sako to be seen ? As Im new to the shooting world Im still undecided on a long range target rifle. The Bergara Mountain 2.0, Kimber Mountain Ascent, Bergara Premier, Browning X-Bolt Pro, Seekins Havac, Weatherby Mark V, Fierce Edge, Christensen Ridgeline, and others are all rifles Im familiar with. I appreciate the blunt honesty. You lost when you bought junk because it will always be low cost junk and you lost when you went to purchase something of quality because the price went way up because you fked around too long before you realized you should have bought quality to begin with when it was still relatively affordable. I own a Fury in 6.5 Creedmoor that will shoot the smallest 5 shot group you ever seen. There are many rifles above the $2k price point. My brother and another buddy bought one (223 and 22-250) because mine shot so well and they had similar results. The trigger is adjustable like the Tikka. I found barrel engraved with 6.5 Creedmore and read manual before use Its the classic , its The One , its stood the test of time , its been around longer than the rest and will still be here long after these other rifles have fallen out of fashion.

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