If you are in the middle of the jungle, lost, and desperately trying to find service, why waste your battery by logging into your phone. God only knows how many people theyve done this to in the last decade. It happens often and I cant even imagine how horrible it was. But during my time spending a year there in 2015 (at the time Id not heard of this case), I had asked around about legends within the jungle and there is in fact legends from tribes who never interacted and are thousands of miles apart which regress of some THING that comes from the sky or trees that is not visible to humans but devours then to the bone. Its interesting numerous people have contacted me anonymously and informed me that there are already multiple existing research teams that are investigating this case privately. I was definitely thinking it looks like her hands might be tied behind her back here. I never received a response. As soon as I zoomed in, my heart sank for her. A wave of deadly exorcisms have griped the country, under the guise of religion, at the hand of a death cult. The police, the media attention, the suspicions on him. Rest fell off of the one hour bridge in Bastrop brains and on the rocks below some photos show her dead body laying down there. Celebrity. One of them probably fell got hurt, a local found them said they would help and well they didnt help they killed them and dumped in River knowing the river would remove any evidence. If the culprit is not brought to book, the rest of the world says it is to protect the tourist industry. No sir, just ordinary incompetence. Regarding accidents (My father a doctor always said accidents do not exist. She uses Kris phone, instinctively entering her own pin number. RIP sweet girls. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=kris+and+lisanne++finanli. The girls' camera showed evidence of what may have happened. For example, I visited numerous hostels in Panama and the hostels that have dogs usually permit their dogs to roam freely outside of the house and to come and go as they please. I think they knew too much and someone wanted them to be silenced forever. Apr 4, 2022 The number of international visitor arrivals in Panama surpassed the one million in 2021, after having plummeted to less than 700 thousand as a result of COVID-19 impact on tourism. Loads of speculations as to why they didnt leave messages to their families. The dog found his way home. she does see something disgusting. One was left above. In the picture of her in the Cave? Why is no one talking about what appears to be a rock painting or a carving 3-4 feet in front of her? This photo of Kris Kremers is identified as Photo 505. Dog owners here are not mindful of where their dog goes the owners are tending to their own life: working, raising children, running a business, or resting during the hot days. The phones remained active for nearly 10days after the pair went missing. I realize that its more interesting to make things more ominous than they are but this is a very sad case of two naive girls who were totally unprepared for their adventure and very sadly got lost, injured and succumbed to nature. The dogs just do what they want to do. Many cold cases have been solved years later. If they had solved the case, the international community (and the families) would have been satisfied and let it fade into history. Her skin does not look pallid like that of a dead person, it is still pink. Este rosto de uma jovem que est angustiada,aterrorizada sem saber o que fazer para se salvar. Im very impressed. The link to the main page where I give complete details of the story: The True Story of Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon 2 Girls That Disappeared in Panama. This story struck my heart. The original plan had been for them to disappear without a trace, like so many other people in that part of Panam, but when the reward money was offered, they decided to fabricate a narrative in which the two girls had mysteriously lost their way on the trail. I knew there was a lot of interest in the case but I never expected to find a sophisticated group collaborating at this level. However, when theres monetary interests involved, especially within key industries I give those ulterior motives some weight and consideration. Hello and thank you for doing such a thorough research. I see orange spray paint markings on the base of the tree further in the cave to Kriss right. Also mobile signals are better at night yet no calls were attempted. The photos give the appearance that they are PROMPTED to go ahead by someone. Right on the bank of the river/stream. And it seems to be leading to a dead-end. Local authorities dont often feel a sense of responsibility to victims and their families. Perhaps incriminating photos existed on the camera before and new photos were taken to overwrite the cameras memory files, therefore preventing the old photos from being extracted from the cameras digital memory. Perhaps the women were lured there to be shown something. The backpack being found with all its contents including money and not even dirty let alone wet after weeks of constant rain-found a day after the area was checked. I think someone took them there. Also, where did learn that her brother mistakenly put the hair photo online? The last set of pics is especially chilling to me, my first thought was Lisanne may have been bound & hurt & somehow able to gain access to the camera & made a last attempt to signal for help or document everything around her as best she could & thats why all the angles are so awkward & unfocused. This could be a very handy skill to our team. There is what appears to be a well trodden, narrow path to the left of her which passes behind her and enters a very dark area at the back right, which could be the cave. Fingerprints were not investigated. Also right inside the cave looks like a fox or something similar is painted on the rock. Basically, theres a lot of government corruption and poverty as a result. Yes, exactly. The point is that all of this case was poorly handled by the authorities. Those two women were wearing very little clothing to be entering bush/jungle, there is no way that theyd easily make their way through vegetation, and, as they were clearly intelligent, why would they voluntarily just walk into dense bush? Hope this was not a member of one of those mad religious sects that, over the years, have been torturing and killing people in Panama. Thats just shadow that the camera didnt illuminate. The final photo may have been eliminated after thought by the still remaining friend, as it may have been too traumatic for her. Even though both kept contact with their families daily through messaging and calls? I like the wit and sarcasm. After investigating further, I discovered this article from the LA Times: https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-01-18/cult-anointed-by-god-kills-7-in-panama-jungle, The LA Times article states The sect arose after a villager returned to the community several months ago following a stint abroad, bringing back unusual religious beliefs with him.. These are all similar in so many of the cases in his Missing 411 series. Full remains were found soon afterward and were assumed to be the two missing women. Its perfectly normal and had they not tragically passed, its the type of photo theyd have been joking about later. How come there are so many disappearances in S. America 1. I believe that the case was handled so poorly that it leads one to believe that it was intentionally handled as such. I never noticed this before Ive removed their comment and blocked them from reposting. Despite search teams, which included dogs and. For me the strongest clue that not anything sinister happened is that the family refused to have ALL photos released because some show the girls in a very rough state. On closer inspection this and the cave photo appear heavily manipulated. We usually permit our commenters to publish links to external material, and you are welcome to do the same. Your email address will not be published. Sheer incompetence. Dimedes Abrego - 12 years in prison. Do you have any idea how many people of all ages go missing here every single day. She turns to talk Lisanna You said it seems to me that they want to destroy the investigation I agree with you that it seems intentional to some degree. Occums razor. I wanted to share this article from a big newspaper in Panama. I implore those who are intrigued by this to read his books. If you look closely at the top left part of this photo, you can see that, behind all the criss-crossed twigs and branches, there is a bank of rock. After days reviewing the evidence, Im now going to share a synopsis of what I believe happened there in the deep, dark cloud forest of Panama. The causes of Kremerss and Froons tragic death have never been determined and the two bodies that were recovered have not even been conclusively found to be either of the girls. The search efforts moved into the forests where the young women traversed, using on-foot search teams and dog units. (The photos where the sky is suddenly cloudy). Where did you hear this? The place itself might reveal some clues as to what sort of person or people would construct it and what are the chances of them doing something bad. Like the taxidriver and the two local boys. The hand painted insignia looks more like a face to me.. A table of photo data from their hike on El Pianista Trail: New Case Data: Timestamps Of Missing Daytime Photos. In the Americas, more than 6,200 people have been reported dead or missing during migration since 2014. We have no way of knowing if somebody tried to unlock the phone but failed. It looks like a turtle shell hanging on the right side of the picture (its further up). The jungle was searched for another ten days with the help of the cops from the Netherlands - but there was no sign of the girls. Very interesting.. So, unless there was camera tampering (that may be since one photo was apparently deleted digitally), her hands are not tied. Hi Kevin, Occums razor only applies when all facts are available. I know if I was hiking and wandering in the jungle (and presumably possibly lost although not quite realizing this at this point), I would be curious about a manmade structure like this. There just seems to be something wrong about this photo, and I dont like her expression. Why no video diary? We have no police report to read which its self may also contain errors. Beyond that, the police are even suspect in altering evidence and not preserving it. Also why make them at night and not during the day? She is NOT looking at the ground, but at the camera, with her face up. I hope someday the family has answers. The whole scene is odd why is Lisanne (if it was her) standing miles away? If the dog was with them, we cannot know for how long, nor why the dog left the girls. But there are a few holes in this particular theory. Realizing just how much trouble these two could have been in. Cops quizzed locals, tour guides and other hikers, but only the photos and call logs provided a slither of evidence as to what had happened. However, Dutch authors Marja West and Jrgen Snoeren claim they have solved the mystery in their bookLost in The Jungle. The left-side of her head is not hair or her hand, but just the foliage in the background. She has no idea that her parents are about to arrive in Panama. This eliminates all questions about why didnt the girls call X, Y, Z. In a mind-blowing theory, Dick Steffens, a former detective in Amsterdam, claimed Kris could still be alive after she was trafficked into the sex trade by a kidnapper roaming in the jungle. All facts are not available in this case. Nothing. Everything suggests they had no clue what they were doing when they took the taxi to the start of the trail. They were lost very shortly after arriving at their destination, And then they made a huge mistake by heading due north to find their way back home and they should have been going to the southeast. exactly, you are very right about the shape of her arms and facial expression. The simplest is for them to disappear. The rock in the riverbed is very distinctive was this location ever found and explored? Does anyone know where this photo was taken in relation to their happy photos taken at the top of the Continental divide? And the hair photo shows him holding Kris by the neck (you can see his fingers, one wearing a silver ring with faces engraved on it). I do not know. Just behind her tied hand area. These other comments are just people seeing what they want to see, to make things more mysterious. I agree with you that what happened is not some misadventure. Many people in El Salvador permit their dogs to roam freely outside in the streets and forests. Both of these photos were photoshopped! Seriously? Its a sect of foreign Christians that set up in the area and murdered 6 people FROM one of the local tribes. Plus, corruption in Panamas government is rampant. They protested in China - now they've gone missing. So, when locals look at you sideways as they glance, glare, or even stare at your shorts and sandals, do not be offended or surprised. How many tourists go missing in Australia each year? Its not a very long trail and I think when they got to the end of the trail they made their really big mistake. The Lost Girls of Panama: The Full Story ^ From that point the trail leads over another dangerous cable bridge, and two more rickety plank swing-bridges, before reaching the Ngobe village of Alto Romero on the banks of the Culebra. Bright sunlight is coming in from the left side of the photo, so Kris holds her flattened right hand up to her face to shield her eyes, similar to a salute. After the backpack was found the family got to see the pictures and the case was ruled an accident presumably the 30 or so pics the family didnt release showed the girls in bad shape,, the case went from foul play to accident after the pics were seen.. the pic of the girls hair was put on internet by her brother or something like that and was quickly photoshopped , the wound and eye were concealed. The sun is shining right into her eyes so shes squinting and bending down a bit to see her friend, who was probably talking to her while snapping the photo. Theres no telling how many people touched it before the police got it. If someone can determine a gang affiliation for that image, it might be possible to determine where the traffickers were from. It is almost as if they are deliberately not to tell anything rather than the much speculated something. Interesting that you. Cave photo: The relationship between pets and owners is different in Central America than in developed countries. I know that in previous photos there are trenches like this one naturally occurring throughout the jungle due to erosion, but this one doesnt appear to be from that. I believe the backpack was placed near the river in order to indicate where the remains would be found (like a flag), and perhaps the backpack was provided in hopes to receive the reward money, and the location of the backpack meant that searches would move to a different location (potentially because the police were too close to the suspects at the time). Tuesday morning, Velleman and Borries were recovered from inside the plane, according to Albert Lewitinn, a representative for the Velleman family. In all the other pictures she is always got her arms visible, I find this very odd. Its sad because Panama is a beautiful country with a lot of wonderful people. No dog. A well-worn path. A woman from the localNgbetribeturned in a blue backpack she claimed she found along the bankof a nearby river. Why are you not sharing their photo number, why are you stating generalities, let me help you, there is a link with all the photos https://koudekaas.blogspot.com/2019/12/the-disappearance-of-kris-kremers-and_11.html Out of all the photos that have been released this photo disturbs me the most. Like jaguar? Haha, Im assuming this is a joke, right? They had planned a trip in the forest the next day, on April 2nd, with a local guide. You cant see any blue sky behind the branches and the rock is in bright sunlight which bleaches out the colour. The alarm was initially raised about the disappearance of the girls after they missed a private walking tour of Boquete on April 2. Froonand Kremerswere both in their early 20s; they traveled toPanama to work with children. The theories go from accident to a crime to a combination of both. To the left hangs a cow skull smeared with blood, perhaps worn during the sacrifices. Let me know about your opinion heres the link https://youtu.be/4wqUCG5bxns loads of greetings Mel. Tourism generates profits of approximately US$1,400 million annually. If I saw a cow skull hanging in a tree I would get the hell out of there, not pose for a photo. Jeroen Jumulet / Stringer / AFP / Getty Images, Blue returned from the hike unaccompanied. This either meant Lisanne Froon was conscious while Kris was not, and tried to call emergency services, or that a third party tried to get into her phone but didnt succeed. Take care if you do go over there. Thanks for the analysis though, I keep looking for new stuff, this case really gets to meI can see why people think this was a criminal act -I see that with some aspects of the case, however, I do think that it was the result of injury and or getting lost -I cant see a criminal 1) letting them keep their phones and camera and 2) letting the camera and phones being discovered. It even appears they have some kind tattoo on their back. I dont think there was actual foul play. According the guidance given to the US Embassy, immigration officials will require tourists who leave the country to stay a minimum of 30 days outside of the country before reentering. Regardless of who created it, the fact is that the women made emergency phone calls shortly after they visited this place. More info here. Regarding the existing photos its a big mess. Debra Ann Velleman's husband, Anthony Velleman, another passenger and the pilot were rescued by Panamanian search and rescue teams. Sorry to bring up the dog again. He has some resources at his disposal. The BLUE object on ground could be a BRA. Theyve been promised much if they deliver Feliciano hard evidence of the girls death. Ive found that there are in fact two native type people visible in the night photos. She realizes she has to try to find the river and decides to leave at dawn. Thanks, John. David Lee Thomas Bass - Facts About the Musician. So they hide a lot of the gang activity and downplay what happens, which exacerbates the problem. However, a lot of the photos seem to have been tampered with and one of them was even deleted from their camera, which could only have been done using a computer. Guns are mostly for use in robberies, but these gangs prefer not to leave bullet holes its too obvious. There was no signal!! Debra Ann Velleman, of Waukesha, Wis., and Sue L. Borries, of Teutopolis, Ill., are missing after their plane crashed off the coast of Panama on Jan. 3, 2022. I no longer believe there was any mirror; What we see is instead is the lid of a soft food container (you can see the food stuck around the edges). Is there a head count of how many people have perished using the hiking trail in, say the last 10 years? Does anyone else see what looks like the back of someones head, their bare back and arm inside the manmade circular object? We have 5 people ending up dead, and the skulls of the girls are never found. I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE PIT PICTURE FOR YEARS, YOU CLEARLY SEE A GATELIKE STRUCTURE OVER THE PIT. Returning the phones + money immediately made it look like they werent attacked for robbery. However, visitors are still a crucial part of the local economy and the reason the. THANK GOD SOMEONE IS SEEING WHAT I SEE. Again, I stress that these kind of murder cases are frequently shut down by the media of the country at the direction of the government. They want to protect their tourism industry but they also dont have the resources to effectively stop gang violence. As we all know, hitting delete never actually deletes files therefore overwriting the files is the only effective method to cleaning old data. Does anyone agree with me? They added a caution sign after their disappearance for this exact reason. Probably the culprit or stupid tribe didnt delete anything coz they took pictures on purpose .for example to sell the footage .but allready the police or parents who asked the investigator to delete it .they just simply didnt want to show it to everyone. People usually have dogs for a mild form of protection. Solvable: yes; but with each year that goes by less likely. I think the most important photos were not the daytime ones; I think the most important photos were some of the legible nighttime ones. He threatened them with a machete, and led them to a sacrificial alter. This observation of yours is amazing, the girls could have stumbled upon something and been victims. Watch Lost in the Wild Season 1 Episode 1. Im very curious Ive heard rumors but have never found verified information. Dogs here are seen as animals (like a jaguar or puma) that can take care of themselves, theyre seen as being dirty (not permitted on furniture) and are more rugged, like the dog can handle his own problems. This is likely part of the trail on the way down from summit, that maybe turns sharply. Caruso, 56, died on June 17 after staying at the Boca Chica Resort in Santo Domingo. You can even see the shadow of her han on her face. But because of their theatrics and ignoring the evidence, the story and curiosity will continue to keep this case alive. Who would do this, and why? After days and days, they finally got a bit of reception and some hope, and they didnt try again?? Ive been into crime shows lately and my husband says I should be an investigator because Im obsessed. Does anyone know what the orange string is on the left of the photo? I find it really creepy, but maybe Im looking at it wrong due to shadows and light. Ive just watched a video on YouTube.. An unusual one.. A psychic reading actually.. There is discussion in reference to a possible cave, but is there any evidence that the girls found a cave besides perhaps Kriss hair appearing unusually dry in the night photos? In 2020 the number of international visitors to Australia dropped to 6.7 million due . Very interesting and completely changed my mind. I think that if the parents had withheld important photographs,showing that the circumstances pointed to natural causes,they would have disclosed that theory before now, surely,if for no other reason,than to prevent further speculation about the girls disappearance. So, if the dog went on the hike with the girls, its most likely that the owners would not have known that fact. Its very disappointing to see the comment sections on this website to be allowed to turn into a very disrespectful and unfunny joke. Maybe they were forced by someone to go. Such a tragedy. Your email address will not be published. The backpack contained two pairs of sunglasses, $83 in cash, two bras, a water bottle - and importantly, Lisanne's passport. One showed Kremers with what looked like concern on her face,dated around the time of the emergency calls. The girls went for a swim in a rock pool. Who said they didnt? Feel free to comment again or send me an email. The group of 13 youngsters - nine from Coln province and four who were visiting from Panama City - left on Friday morning to go swimming in Gatn Lake. The chain of custody is muddy. There are over 30 fingerprints on the blue backpack which belongs to one of the girls, but they dont want to investigate the fingerprints. It was probably done by the perpetrators in order to collect the reward money. Ive considered a number of possibilities on the pictures. September 1, 2022. Ive already researched a lot about the local conditions: https://imperfectplan.com/2020/07/02/kris-kremers-lisanne-froon-panama-bleached-bones/. Think. Well done Chris on highlighting the strangeness of this place. Highly probable. And the police know who it is, but will not say anything. The day before theguided tour, however, they decided to explore the area surrounding the activeBarVolcano towards the Continental Divide. There is an illustration drawn on Kriss back in the hair photo. This is the real one: I know that their camera and mobile phone photos have been analyzed a thousand times by various people online but I also know that many people arent able to enhance the brightness, contrast, exposure and saturation in a professional graphics program. That way, no downloads are necessary. They took the dog with them on the walk and it came back the next morning but they didnt there had to have been some clues maybe like how far could the dog have gone and still find its way back home? Also last year, 22-year-old Florida man Craig Taylor was found strangled to death on a dirt road in Punta Sam, north of downtown Cancun. If you think America is a safe country youre extremely ignorant or niieve. It was taken on the Continental Divide on April 1st, 2014 with the recorded time: 13:20:32. The stats leave 42 cases currently open since 2007. The non-waterproof lycra backpack mysteriously shows up, with completely dry contents. Then again, my brain may be playing tricks from staring at it too long. That said, tourists wear shorts and sandals because they are not used to the heat or aware of such social norms.

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