The classic was, is, and remains a lever-action chambered to something larger than .30-caliber. will want to try the more radical-looking SIG Cross in .277 Fury. Such tools may be infinitely adjustable for precision fit and performance, but Ill walk the woods and get my game with a more classic looking hunting rifle. 30 Nosler cases are preferred if forming 27 Nosler cases because of the similar shoulder dimension. But not so much that youre afraid to shoot it. Think Remington M700s, Savage M110s, Ruger M77s, and even the Browning Autoloading Rifle. Faster models like .270 Wby. Chambered in .28 Nosler, this 8 pound, 8 ounce setup kicks quite hard. Mag.,) the 27 Nosler should be able to nudge a 165-grain along at 3,100 fps, perhaps 3,150 fps. One of the shots put the wildebeest flat on the ground immediately. Heavier bullets. Roughly equivalent to a . Unless you want a new, longer range rig, then go for it! Again, bullet weight. However, you should be aware that the recoil on a .28 Nosler is not right for all shooters. Elk Hunter 338 Official LRH Sponsor. Will you be able to handload once-fired cases? can be laid at the feet of the shooter or the bullet used. The primary example right now is the 28 Nosler, but 7mm bullet development continues, and I predict cartridge development will keep pace. of energy, making it a suitable choice for an all-around North American cartridge. Equally significant is the 27 Noslers recommended twist rate: 1 turn in 8.5 inches. But times change. I think a .30-06 with 180-grain bullet offers about the same performance as a 7mm Remington Magnum with 175-grain bullet. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. Joined Feb 1, 2016 Messages 82. Although there are more advanced and fancy bullet designs created more recently, most factory loads for the 28 Nosler focus on long range expansion, and Id prefer to have a Partitions deep penetration for elk. Mag. Im convinced these new, heavy bullets elevate the .270s performance on larger game: Similar to the 7mms with like bullet weights; and exceeding the capability of any 6.5mm. With these two cartridges coming on line, our .270 selection has just grown from four members to six: 6.8mm Remington SPC, .270 Winchester, .270 WSM, and .270 Wby. Video of Elk Being Shot with .28 Noslerif(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[250,250],'backfire_tv-box-4','ezslot_13',175,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-backfire_tv-box-4-0'); Nosler even advertises the .28 Nosler primarily as an elk cartridge. Nosler has built quite a cartridge family, and it continues to grow. They share a maximum body diameter of 14.0 mm (0.550 in). Most hunters dont absolutely need such long, heavy bullets for effective performance at responsible game-taking distances, but beyond 300 yards they do flatten trajectories, minimize wind deflection, and maximize retained energy. 27 Nosler 145 Hornady ELD-X-How The 27 Nosler Outdoes Other .270s: Based on the .404 Jeffery, its case has exceptional capacity. If you need to balance reach and punch with minimal weight, Id look to the 7mm magnums pushing 150- to 175-grain bullets. That bullet offers the best of all worlds, as it will reliably expand at longer ranges when it has slowed down a bit, yet will hold together at woods distances when velocities remain high . Because Winchester didnt insist on the caliber being proprietary, anyone could load and chamber for it. The . The 27 Nosler, like its counterparts across the family of Nosler cartridges, has raised the performance bar when it comes to the .277. Noslers .27 will be chambered in that companys M48 bolt-action rifles. The difference is .07 of an inch, the animal in the receiving end will never know that difference. H4350 130 grain Barnes TSX 2980 fps in 22 inch barrel. This point, however, brings up a problem with the .28 Nosler if you plan to shoot factory loads rather than reloading yourself. But, much to my chagrin, my guide was right and I was wrong. Nonsense. The .28 Nosler shoots flat and powerfully, but it is expensive to shoot, burns barrels quickly, and has significant recoil. On the other side of the caliber scale are the .35 Whelen (.30/06 necked up) and various .375s. There is a persistent myth flying about that the 7mm Rem Mag shoots too fast. Many claim its bullets dont have time to open. The .30/30, .300 Savage, .30/06, .300 Win. This is a great site and I love the reviews but there are some inconsistencies. 28 Nosler/160 AB is a great elk combination. Well, bullet weight, perhaps? I can wait to get it back. Yes, this is a short-action, small capacity case which demands we ask the obvious question: how can the little .277 SIG Fury shoot as fast from a 16-inch barrel as the larger .270 Winchester shoots from a 24-inch barrel? bullet like the Swift Scirocco will retain 2,350 ft-lb at 400 yards, 1,500 ft-lb clear out at 600 yards. I would go with the 28. Quite a few elk have fallen from the 117hh in a wsm at . Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.7.5. Hornady Outfitter is pretty accurate and its less than its other Nosler cousins. 28 Nosler barrel life is around 700-900 rounds for 175-grain bullets. For deer and pronghorn, to much gun. So match your 7mm elk dreams to your recoil tolerance and select among this big family. From the post-World War II era . 30 Nosler cases are preferred if forming 27 Nosler cases because of the similar shoulder dimension. Nov 7, 2022. Some folks will take any attempt to improve the .270 Winchester as a direct insult, yet I disagree: like the .22-250 Remington and .35 Whelen, an improved twist rate can really change the game altogether, and this is exactly what the 27 Nosler has done. Mag., and you understand why its not just the most popular .300 magnum of all time, but one of the best all-round elk calibers of all time. For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. The Browning X-Bolt Pro I purchased in .28 Nosler weighs a mere 6 pounds, 10 ounces un-scoped. Heres how it performed. No caliber is more uniquely American than the 270. Traditional .270s are limited by 1:10 rifling twist to 150-grain bullets. First, 7mm bullets tend to have better aerodynamics, so they will strut their stuff better at longer ranges. One of the main differences between the 26 Nosler vs 28 Nosler is velocity. The .27 Nosler works with a larger powder reservoir. X-Vision Optics long-range ImpactThermal Scope (TS300) boasts a 640 x 480 thermal sensor that can detect big game well past 3,000 yards. How much more, exactly? Short action chamberings are likely to be in shorter, lighter rifles, so instead of a .338 Win. Finally, the puny 6.8 SPC from Remington appeared about 2004. At 500 yds. Flatter trajectories. Slide up to some of the new 190-gr. JavaScript seems to be disabled in your browser. Makes me feel good to see I am within 150 fps of the 27 Nosler. There are plenty of other .30-calibers for hire. Any rifles already chambering for any of the fatter magnums like the RUMs, Dakotas, or .338 Lapua should be fit to fit the 27 Nosler. A few more calibers throwing those famous .308 bullets include the .300 Ruger Compact Magnum, .300 SAUM, .300 WSM, .30/308 Norma Mag., .300 H&H, 30 Nosler, .300 Wby. The newest addition announced at the 2020 SHOT Show is the 27 Nosler, which, as you might have guessed, is a .270 caliber. 2023 Backfire LLC, a limited liability company headquartered in Utah, USA. I think .277 caliber is going to be the next big thing imo..it will be the next craze similar to the 6.5s..if you get a 27 nosler you will just be getting in ahead of the game. But the .338 Win. The 27 Nosler has a long leade for sleek, high BC, long ogive, ABLR and RDF style bullets. The 27 Nosler shares the same caliber as the storied .270 Winchester and other .27 caliber rifles. Certainly the .270s and 6.5mms can and do take elk annually, but one would be hard pressed to recommend them as optimum. With the right bullet and .308 hunting rifle, the ubiquitous .308 Winchester is more than adequate out to 300 yards where a high B.C. No discussion of a cartridges ability to take large game would be complete without discussing foot pounds of energy. Mag. Another desirable choice is the also-scarce .358 Winchester, and I took a fine Colorado bull with a Marlin in .338 Marlin Express, a great cartridge. I wanted it to be my hunt the world gun that I could use for hunting everything from wild hog and deer up to elk, wildebeest, waterbuck, and other large-bodied game. In this article, Ill cover the pros and cons Ive found with shooting the .28 Nosler on my recent big game hunting adventures. The "new" .270s (27 Nosler and 6.8 Western), with faster twists and bullets up to 175 grains change the game. will handle the .338 Win. Although Ive been shooting all my life, I have to mentally check my shoulder mount before I pull the trigger. My picks for the best elk hunting calibers are what I consider the best, not the most popular. Just make sure you have the best rifle for the terrain you intend to hunt. Nosler has built quite a cartridge family, and it continues to grow. They dont start as fast but with better aerodynamics, theyll pass lighter slugs at mid-range, and hit way out there with more authority. Elk carry enough venison on the hoof to suggest a big cartridge and big bullet. Two of the newest entrants into this category, the .28 Nosler and the .300 PRC. Performance improves. While there are some drawbacks to this cartridge for elk hunting, in general its one of the best rounds on the market. Recoil is stout, but manageable. All good choices, except: Any rifle used for elk must wear a scope, because of low-light situations, and the need to find a hole through foliage. Certainly, out to 400 yards, no elk can stand up to a good 180-grain bullet well-placed from a .30-06. In the past, you had to handload to get these, but long-range shooters have created sufficient demand that many ammo makers now offer factory ammo featuring bullets heavier than 200-grains. Get a closer look at the Nosler M48 Mountain Carbon in 27 Nosler, the latest addition to our #SundayGunday series.For more information, visit https://www.ame. A 140- to 150-grain .264 driven to the same speeds as a .270 Win. Winchesters original .270 of 1925 is still embraced as a mild-shooting, flat-shooting, open-country deer cartridge. I took some big elk with the Swift A-Frame and bullet performance was exceptional. Figure an 8-pound rifle spitting a 150-grain bullet slapping your shoulder with about 30- to 34 foot-pounds of energy at 16 fps. Mag. Well, as the majority of us are primarily deer hunters, and the .270 Winchester handles deer and similar sized game so well, I dont think that will come to pass. Those are better trajectory numbers than many .338 Win. Despite the age and reputation of the 6.555 Swede cartridge across Europe, the 26-calibers have never been a go to for elk in North America. That increased capacity, coupled with modern powders, allows the 27 Nosler to drive bullets faster and flatter than ever before. And, I know they are going to be pretty similar, but, still, I have to choose one. These days certain 6.5mms have been growing in popularity despite relatively light bullets and muzzle velocities well under 3,000 fps. At Nosler velocities, no elk is going to stop a mono metal bullet. Jim. With such a rifle, we are expecting a shot at less than 100 yards. Only downside to the 27N is lack of high BC bullets to really stretch its legs out. These rifle weight/size considerations will influence cartridge size, especially length. Your rifle is your most important hunting tool, and knowing how to properly clean and store it when hunting season comes to a close is critical in keeping it in tip-top shape. All Rights Reserved. Kali Parmley, Editor-in-chief of Bakccountry Hunter speaks with Bret Maffet of Franchi Firearms to discuss the all new Momentum All Terrain Elite. Both new rounds exceed the ballistics of the old one, but do it in different ways. I do enjoy the videos and your enthusiasm in them. This new 10mm from FN is rugged, versatile, and effective. . From left to right: 27 Nosler, .270 Weatherby Magnum, .270 WSM, .270 Winchester, 6.8 SPC. Still a great cartridge, as is the .300 Weatherby. If youre shopping for the perfect elk caliber/rifle, determine how much recoil you can tolerate without flinching and how much rifle weight you might enjoy packing. Figure another 30 fps velocity increase for every inch of barrel added and a 24-inch launchpad should nudged that 140-grain to 3,240 fps. Introducing the Veracity PH from Burris, the perfect combination of reliability, quality, and technology delivering a simple aiming solutiona tool for the hunter that just works. No experience with this specific bullet, but with my .270 I have taken 5 elk (2 bulls, 3 cows) with the 150gr Federal Fusion in factory load. Mag., 27 Nosler, .277 SIG Fury. The size of elk also varies. We use cookies to make your experience better. Bill Buckley. In eight-pound rifles, the 7mm Rem. I know small-framed hunters who happily pay the gravitational price for packing Granddads M1886 Winchester lever-action in .45/70. Any rifle strong enough to contain the 7mm Rem. Id go the 27 Nosler, the 270 WSM is awesome. The 27 Nosler has 32% more case capacity than the .270 Winchester, 22% more than the .270 Winchester Short Magnum and 14% more than the .270 Weatherby. The 28 Nosler and Remington Ultra Magnum adds about 250 fps to the Rem. So, bullet performance and caliber are the measures of killing power at expected shooting ranges. If recoil doesnt bother you, Id look hard at the .300 WSM, .325 WSM, even the new 6.8 Western, agonize over a 24-inch barrel, and probably compromise with a 23-inch barrel. When it first came out in 1962, it sent the then four-year-old .264 Winchester Magnum into a tailspin. Ideally, something like the .338 Lapua Magnum makes sense but, realistically, that is too much recoil. But 3,190 FPS with a 170 pill. high B.C. Will your favorite rifle brand and style be chambered in it? But that doesnt seem to matter. Mag. The .277 Fury works with much higher chamber pressures to get high velocity. The .270 Winchester fits standard-length actions with standard diameter bolt faces and standard magazines. Enjoy your videos very much. The muscle car of .277-caliber cartridges is the recent 27 Nosler. Mag. They shoot flatter, but they kick me into next week. Bugling rifle hunts arent common, but they still exist. I also have a 28 Nosler and am very impressed with its performance. wheaties300 Well-Known Member. But replacing the 300 WSM doesn't make sense to me. Will you be able to find ammo? I've also shot elk with my 338-06, 30-06AI, 30-06, 7mmRM, 284W, and in the last two years, three elk with a 243W. Zero both three inches high at 100 yards and at 400 yards they both drop 11.3 inches and deflect about 8.5 inches in that 10 mph breeze. "Whereas the 6.5s aren't enough for elk and the .30 cals are too much for whitetail, the 6.8 strikes the perfect balance of ballistic performance for all North American big game and in lighter, easier-to-shoot rifle platforms." . And he could get it in affordable rifles from several manufacturers. Unless you work with a custom gun builder and handload, study factory options before choosing. Fully prepped, Nosler premium cartridge brass in 27 Nosler will be available in 25ct boxes. That 160 grain Nosler Partition bullet is perfect for hunting really big game where it's really important to use a heavy, well constructed projectile. So, I dont believe any 7mm hits as hard as a .30-caliber. While Elmer had his fans agreeing, the thorn in Elmers side, Jack OConnor, had his readers lapping up the .270 Winchester. The old .30-06 remains an awesome elk cartridge. Whats best for you depends on the distance you intend to shoot, based on where you hunt. With a muzzle brake (included with the X-bolt Pro, the gun is quite tolerable. Your taste in rifle weight, mass, and recoil will color your choices. I had the 170 elites up to 3125 fps when it was 270 wby so I'm hoping to easily get to 3200 + once it's a 27. The last elk I killed was nice 6x6 at 260 yds with 270. Just be aware that shot angles and placement do become critical as bullet mass and energy decline. Foot-pounds aside, I think elk-sized animals are better taken with heavier bullets than are essential for your typical deer round. For over 90 years, American hunters have taken to the field in pursuit of nearly all the game the lower 48 states have to offer with a trusty 270 in hand. Im not suggesting that elk rifles should be four times more powerful than deer rifles, but elk are tough. I have both and have taken all of my fast .30 elk with them. (Photo: Kristin Alberts/Guns.com) Synonymous with quality hunting ammunition, Nosler shakes things up in the .270 world introducing a new caliber - the 27 . A traditional stock or adjustable? Mag. How much will it cost? This is the unfortunate trade off. Even at the 500-yard mark, the 27 Nosler will deliver over 2,100 ft.-lbs. Kevin Steele of Petersen's HUNTING is at the Streamlight booth at SHOT Show 2023 to go over the Bear Trap light from Streamlight. Even at the 500-yard mark, the 27 Nosler will deliver over 2,100 ft.-lbs. Weatherby came out with his .270 magnum fairly soon (about 20 years) after the .270 Winchester took off, but the next .277 shooter didnt pop until 2001 as the .270 Winchester Short Magnum. Ditto the .416s, 44s, and 45s. However, simply not passing through the body is not necessarily a bad thing, and depends highly on the bullet construction. Subscribe to OL+ for our best feature stories and photography. Im not not the kind of shooter that whips out a 50BMG or .338 Lapua for a casual day on the range. The 27 Nosler can . And then what will barrel life be like? Less variety in factory loads on the market. in the mid .4s to low .5s, good enough to provide maximum point blank range of 320 to 340 yards on a 10-inch target zone. .308-inch diameter bullet carrying 1,500 ft-lb energy and I doubt theyll notice any difference. The conventional (and mostly misguided) wisdom is that an elk cartridge should have 1,500 foot pounds of energy at the distance from which you shoot. Fine options include the old .264 Win. Kali Parmley of Gun Dog Magazine talks to George Thompson from Benelli USA about the new features from the Benelli line in 2023. Benefits of the .28 Nosler. The 7mm Rem Mag is certainly adequate for any elk, especially with heavier bullets. Once you start reaching out there, the 28 Nosler really shines. A .270 Winchester would generate about 20 ft-lbs in the same rifle. Heft up to a 10-pound rifle and kick will calm to just 32.7 ft-lb. By the way, the .277 SIG Fury arose out of SIGs project to build a light, belt-fed .277 machine gun cartridge and rifle for the U.S. military. Im not convinced this is a good thing. Mag. Thats good enough for 3,500 ft-lb muzzle punch. So, for an all-around elk-thumper, Ive gone back to the .338. Looking for previous installments of our "Behind the Bullet" series? The .27 Nosler works with a larger powder reservoir. Start with the .30/30 Winchester and climb until your nose bleeds. In local stores, you are unlikely to find anything other than Hornadys Precision Hunter 162-grain ELD-X, or a Noslers 175-grain Trophy Hunter load with an Accubond bullet. I also think extreme-range shooters with traditional to semi-traditional tastes will gravitate to the Nosler in a bolt-action rifle like the M48. He is a well-known entrepreneur, having started many successful online brands, and lives in St George, Utah. re: new 27 nosler vs 28 nosler Posted on 12/17/20 at 8:43 pm to kengel2. Look at ammo cost to either buy or reload, whichever you do. Most factory loads from a 24-inch barrel are rated 2,960 fps. Thats a very nice lightweight setup, without going to the extremes. Joined Feb 19, 2010 Messages 3,240 Location GODS COUNTRY IDAHO. Lots of familiar rifles are chambered for it, ammo is abundant, variable and inexpensive. In addition to the caliber, Nosler also introduced new 165gr . He has managed multiple gun ranges, and has hunted around the world. The 26 Nosler has a higher muzzle velocity than the 28 Nosler, making it ideal for long-range shooting. bear a closer comparison. the 27 Nosler drops 11 less than a 270 Win and 7 less than a 270 WSM. It delivers greater velocity than even the gargantuan .270 Weatherby. I used a 7mm Rem Mag for years, great cartridge. will kick with 29.3 ft-lb, and the 300 will slap you with 37 ft-lb. throwing similar weight projectiles means youre packing elk medicine. There are several more options if you purchase online or order your loads from a local store, but you should be aware that those who dont reload and purchase from local shops will likely not have many options. If your chosen bullet fails to expand at 1,000 yards, its a poor choice, no matter the energy. One of the most popular magnums of all time. The elk offers a huge vital zone. Selecting your perfect elk caliber hinges on you as well as the elk and the landscapes and habitat in which youll hunt them. My 28 Nosler launches the 162 Grain EL-DX's at 3,250 FPS. bullet will carry about 250 ft-lb more energy. Wonderful elk cartridge, so is the .325 WSM, but theyre not common. The tougher the terrain, the lighter. Mag. Heres a look at 10 of the most flexible long-range hunting cartridges. The .277-inch bore has been definedfor nearly a centuryby the .270 Winchester, and while that cartridge is an undeniable classic, its twist rate limits the bullet weight to 150 grains maximum, with some of the round nosed 160s stabilizing properly in certain circumstances. The 190-gr. They share a maximum body diameter of 14.0 mm (0.550 in). On the contrary, 150-180 grain bullets in 300 Win Mag can hold up to 1000 rounds. That said, dozens, nay hundreds of elk are layed low each fall by careful application of the 6.5 Creedmoor, a near ballistictwin of the Swede. Okay, but minimal. Drawbacks to the .28 Nosler. Or even ten. .280 Ackley Improved. Bulls are bigger than cows; and mature, fully grown bulls are huge. Guns. And suddenly, in 2020, were getting two of them. But in the chart it says it carries it to over 1200 yards. Jim Harmer is a host of the Backfire Youtube channel. Thats not a typo. The included photo of the model/mock up of this case is close but not exact. Publisher, Kevin Steele is with Brett Marquardt from Streamlight Inc. discussing the new Streamlight Pro Tac 2.0, the latest edition in the Pro Tac series. Not only does it pack a whopping 3,188 foot pounds of energy at 100 yards, it maintains a measurement of over 1,500 foot pounds out to 747 yards. But up close, you notice a custom upgrade that allows this piece of machinery to do [], Citing the critical importance of elk, deer and other big game migration corridors, winter range and other vital habit, the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation urged [], West Virginias elk herd continues to grow and biologists are doing the best they can to monitor the populations health, size, movements and habitat use. Is 28 Nosler too much for deer? The tighter the cover, the shorter the rifle. The 28 Nosler, on the other hand, was introduced in 2015 and is known for its excellent accuracy and energy retention. Weatherbys .300 magnum had been dazzling magnum fans since the mid 1940s, but it was a full-length magnum caliber available only in expensive custom or Weatherby Rifles. Bullets engineered to expand at 7mm terminal velocities are the ticket, and there are plenty of them. Over the decades, millions of deer, elk, sheep, bears and pronghorn have fallen to it, to grace the tables and walls of Americas hunters and add chapters to the American hunting lore. slug from the .300 Win. About 1:8 would be my guess. After those stalwarts comes a blizzard of .30-calibers that claw their way up the power scale. Ever since Nosler announced that they were coming out with the Nosler 27, I have been thinking I would prefer a Nosler 28. Mag., and elk hardly know the difference. The ELD-X is not a deep penetrating bullet, but instead is designed for reliable expansion even at longer distances and slower speeds. Of course that means more energy downrange, less drop, and less wind deflectionwith a bunch more recoil. The new .270s (27 Nosler and 6.8 Western), with faster twists and bullets up to 175 grains change the game. 28 Nosler is a one and done for everything on NA. trajectory may explain how the 7mm Rem. arrived in 1958 as a short magnum derived from the .375 H&H belted magnum case. True. But that has nothing to do with the actual performance of the .277 SIG Fury cartridge or rifle. The .264 topped out at 140-grains. However, if I were in the market for a fast 7mm, Id look at one of the new unbelted cartridges designed for these bullets. Mag. I think the reason the .28 Nosler factory loads are so focused on long range expansion is that it is an extremely capable long range cartridge. I have tremendous respect for elk. A year later, I couldnt be happier with my purchase. It throws a 150-grain bullet 3,300 fps from a 26-inch barrel, about 300 to 400 fps faster than the .270 Winchester, 200 fps faster than the .270 WSSM, and 100 fps quicker than the .270 Weatherby Magnum. But if youre going to this narrow caliber, choose one with more velocity than the Creedmoor. Sign up with your email address to receive news and updates. 1:8.5 The 27 Noslers faster-than-standard twist barrel is designed to stabilize modern, long range bullets. Watch videos, see the latest gear and more. Your email address will not be published. Skis are easily the most efficient way to cover snowy ground on foot in winter. I see it this way with a bullet of adequate caliber for the game hunted, its bullet performance at expected range that kills and is a good measure of killing abilty. Can Coolers | An Official Journal Of The NRA, Find More Great NRA Publications Perfect For Every Interest, Discover Everything That The NRA Has To Offer. Mag., flying half a foot flatter and impacting with an additional 200fps of energy at 500 yards. Mag. Your email address will not be published. Why I believe the actual on target energy is about the same as felt recoil. In both cases, the 163 grain ELD-X bullet did not exit the animals body and used all that energy inside the vitals. Another good choice for an elk bullet would be the standard 140 grain AccuBond. I wouldnt want to use my lightweight rifle in .28 Nosler for a range gun when I want to shoot 50-100 shots for a practice session. This little brother to the .338 Win. Which begs the question: Why arent more bird hunters using them? Google a 270 win - 280 rem comparison and it will tell you all you need to know. Nosler has introduced the 27 Nosler, a 27-caliber cartridge based on the fat .404 Jeffery case, same as the .30, .28, and .26 Noslers. IMR 7828, IMR 7977 and IMR 8133; Reloder 26 and Reloder 33; Hodgdons H1000 and H50BMG; all make good choices for the big case. Okay, but minimal. . from a .338 Federal should deliver 1,711 f-p energy at 300 yards and drop just nine inches. 1. It's extremely flat shooting and drops an incredible amount of energy on target. Winchesters original loadings included a 200-grain bullet rated 3,000 fps, a 250-grain at 2,700 fps, and a heavy 300-grain at 2,450 fps from 24-inch barrels. The .28 Nosler shoots flat and powerfully, but it is expensive to shoot, burns barrels quickly, and has significant recoil. The two old wildebeest bulls weighed about 315 pounds each, and a mature bull elk weighs approximately 650 pounds. The 27 Nosler has 32% more case capacity than the .270 Winchester, 22% more than the .270 Winchester Short Magnum and 14% more than the .270 Weatherby. Although decisively effective, this means that it is overpowered for deer. Im guessing many semi-custom brands like Fierce, Christensen Arms, Browning X-Bolts and others will soon be chambered 27 Nosler. One of the most prominent differences between the two is that the 28 Nosler fires a bullet diameter of 7.2mm or 0.284" while the 300 Win Mag fires the more common 30-caliber or 0.308" diameter bullets.

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