Water is at the road but would have to be run to each home independently. Can anyone tell me who I can call to get my land perked in smithville Tn. I would suggest talking to the local Department of Environmental Health. However, he never even showed up until after the crops were harvested. Crazy times. They work by both allowing the water to absorb into the ground and to wick through the ground cover on the surface. In order to perform a perc test, one must be a surveyor, engineer, soil scientist, or architect. If, in the course of testing, the rate exceeds 106 mpi, then the hole fails and that section of ground can no longer be used for a subsurface disposal system. So, you would need to expand the drainfield (assuming it wasnt overdesigned to begin with). Theoretically, one should not use one unless it is established what it means. Honestly, I dont know the average ft. After another costly repair we finally turned in everything to the county and waited 2 weeks before following up with them to find out where we stood in order to meet with the Board of Health. Aside from the calling the slim scientist, is there anything else that needs to be done on our end prior to this? I have seen constructed wetlands, sand/gravel filtrations, low-pressure pipes, and several others. Tell them the background and see what they say. Also, the land is on a hillside and we want to build at the top. I have no way to travel to the States to do this. I assume that the county owns the tertiary treatment site (drain field) which means you do not have to have a perc test. You would need to contact a civil engineer. Can we place a second home on 7.6 acres? Can you give me a little insight as to what that all means? I always thought it was number of bedrooms, but a friend of mine recently told me it was bathrooms, so now Im curious because were looking at adding onto our property and need to know if we need an additional perc site or if we can just use our current one. In the end, it is the job of Environmental Health to determine system size, not the soil scientist. Hello Timothy, I have 20acres in Marshall county all flat land and is currently being used to plant corn on. So to answer your question, adding bedrooms, not bathrooms, requires increasing the drain field size. Her home is a manufactured home, ours would be too. This is where, like you said, if your current (new) system ever failed, you could still build a new system. Is having a high intensity map made a costly proposition? My situation is that my wife has taken care of her grandparents for the last 10 yrs and we all moved to TN. You will have access to this test one time within 30 days from the date of purchase. Thanks for your thoughts. They can answer this for you. Hi, I have a 13 acre property in Blount County Tn. The first 1/3 of the lot is very gently sloping and where wed like to place our build site. Take what you have and reach out to them. Yet, a three bedroom home was built. Yes, you will need to remap the lot to see if there are other areas where a system can go in. Imma go out on a limb here though and say that if you offer enough incentive, you may be able to get someone to get there sooner. PSI will not be responsible for any personal items and suggests that you leave them in a safe place of your choosing. Will the whole property, including his grandads house, have to be reperced for us to build? I really dont want a pump system! As for disturbing the soil, I would like to think that as long as you are not changing anything below a foot deep, you would be ok. Something doesnt match up. When you decide to build, you must file for a permit for a subsurface disposal system (septic) and at that time, the local health department will determine if you need a soil map (assuming one was not done prior) and based on the soil type, you may or may not have to do a perc test. Depending on the zoning and the availability of public water and sewer, one might be able to put as many as 12 houses on that land or maybe only the one. There are several options I have seen used here in Tennessee: artificial wetlands, low pressure pipes, enhanced filtration, etc. Active Pumpers. Well, it is actually a percolation test - designed to determine the absorption rate of soils for subsurface disposal systems. My family owns some land. Hello, I inherited land with not house in Tehachapi California . We were never told we would be responsible for this at any point. Due to COVID both my employer and my husbands have transitioned to a full-time remote work force. If you have had a preliminary review, I would contact that soil scientist and get their take on how deep you can till without affecting the area. I would also suggest contacting your building codes department to ensure this is even legal in your area. Use the form below to search through documents. After looking at the GIS maps and the soil levels its interesting to me that the primary and secondary sites were done in the very back of the property that has soil type BaC, which seems not great for septic systems. I had a 3-bedroom modular home installed many moons ago. In fact, this was painfully evident as the first river birch was much larger than the last. If you have an approved lot, you should not be percolation testing them again. I am looking for info on using a pre existing system built sometime around 1930 or 40. Thank you for your assistance? I had another Realtor tell me on 30+ acre property in Dicksonyou didnt need a perc test, you could tell the county what you wanna build and they just give you permit, and that anything over 5acres didnt need a perc test?? Is there any way to subsequently increase the number of bedrooms? Is there any limit on distance for the backup soil sites being that if first one failed we could pump it to secondary site.Any guess how long it would take to have someone come out and do the perk tests? I seriously doubt anyone would force the landowner to remove the trailer unless the septic system was failing and could not be repaired. We had hoped to buy 100 acers in E. TN and put cabins but it seems that a lot of people got the same memo and now land has tripled. As to the last segment when you said, House was built in 1980s, the field lines are in the neighbors yard and were never surveyed properly when the property was divided and sold. The house was originally built in the 50s when no codes or standards were quite in place. But no matter the system, I believe an engineer is required once you move from a conventional subsurface system. The dealer says people do this all the time building on family land or rented land. My husband and I are under contract for a lot in Ooltewah(Hamilton County). The land that [our] field line[s] sit on was sold illegally. It is possible to sell land with encroachments on it. I am not, however, sure how in the world your tanks are filling unless it is backfilling from the drain field. Thanks for your time. If the soil type identified has an MPI (minutes per inch) rating above a certain number (I think 75 mpi), then percolation tests are required. Thank you for your quick and helpful response. How can I find info on still being able to use the system? If you are choosing to use an alternative system, then you will likely need to have that designed by an engineer. I do believe there may be an expiration date, but if so, it is a LONG time. If we called it a non-dwelling residence, would a perc site be needed? It is also likely that runoff from the neighbor is infiltrating your drain field and saturating it. If youre still looking for an onsite wastewater solution, contact my firm. Good morning. TVA only deals with their land. I have tried calling the soils scientist but no response. I was told I needed to have a soil scientist come out. If the site failed before, it is because someone probably brought in failed percolation tests or a bad soil map. As for value. Thanks again. See above, but I would have to wonder why you cannot build. Your email address will not be published. My husband keeps telling me that we cant build on top of the perk site, but this does not make sense to me. We would be purchasing land together as a whole would land have to be divided before building could start? Any advice/suggestions are welcome! If you are in a modern subdivision, it is possible that there is already a soil map on record at the county environmental health department. It came with a perc test along with the location of the allowable septic location. The effluent would still need to be run sub surface. Regardless of whether you are a contractor or homeowner, to install a septic system, you must have a construction Let the Health Department sort it out first. Each perc test covers a 5050 square. This is to determine if you can use an alternate system. Yeah, seems Montgomery County doesnt do their own permitting. Will the whole property, including his grandads house, have to be reperced for us to build? I am just starting to research about septic sites and perc requirements. Thanks in advance for your help. I have High Intensity Soil Map for the land that I am interested in Smyrna. How would I find out if it perked for a 3 bedroom? I am in need of a soil/Perk test done on a lot located at 157 Big Cove Creek rd. It wasnt until the system began to fail that I found out that only enough drain field line for 2.5 bedrooms was installed. Provided all parcels are 5 acres or more, touch an approved road, and dont require piping in water or piping out sewer, they do not fall under the purview of the planning commission. of Environmental Health. Of course, this assumes there has been no change to the property. The soil map I found on line shows most of the cleared pasture is either Clairborne silt loam or Fullerton cherty silt loam, hilly phase. Hello, im looking for answers for an alternative system in Rutherford co.. 5 acres. I will have to answer your question with another question. Assuming the soils are what the map shows and the absorption rate is below 75, I believe you are right and will not be required to do a percolation test to apply for a permit. Is my first step getting the land perc? It has been my experience that if there are large trees, the soils are usually pretty good for sub-surface disposal. Who knows or would ever know. That is what I thought. No matter, if you are in possession of a parcel that cannot support a conventional sub-surface disposal system and you still want to build, you can hire an engineer to design something for you. An SSDS Permit (aka drain field layout) or other groundwater services like certifications or verifications can be prepared for your property. In soils where the rate is 75 minutes per inch (MPI) or greater, a percolation test must be performed. Hi Timothy! Soil type from just online seems to be Eg,Trc,tbd3,tbc3 would you know if any of those would normally perk? If the Address you are searching for is not listed please email Ground Water for further assistance at gwp@hamiltontn.gov. The soil engineer who did the soil map knows nothing about aerobic systems. You will need to get a permit. We do not have the deed to the land yet, and it has not been surveyed. You may need to have your soil map amended if they didnt map the whole lot. What if a house is only perced for 3 bedrooms? There are several options, like recirculating sand filtration systems, constructed wetlands, and others. 1. The other option is to talk with a civil engineer to see if there is the potential for an alternative system, like a sand filter or constructed wetlands or an LPP system or whatever. There are some alternative sewage disposal systems available but they typically require an engineer to design them. What we are having trouble with is the steps leading up to the permitting application. There is no true standard for mapping. only 10 inches of soil in a very small 125 area on the property. Before I was comfortable to buy the land, I wanted a soil scientist to come out and evaluate it, with knowledge of where, specifically, we were going to build. They should be able to give you contact information for soil scientists that work that area. So when we put a a trailer out there will it say on paper only 2 bedroom or will it say passed or failed and we put a bigger trailer if we want to. The septic tank is the first component of an on-site sewage management system. HOW OFTEN SHOULD YOU GET A PERK TEST IF THE LAND DIDNT THE FIRST TIME? I called health dept and they looked up the three addresses for the parcels of property and told me they were surveyed in 2003 and found not approved.I believe because of rock issues? If the size is still way up there, then contact an engineer to determine the best alternative system. Now, if you keep everyone above 15 acres, each one can put the land into greenbelt and reduce the amount of taxes you have to pay. This practice exam will cover all aspects of the test including all subjects and books. What is the likelihood of being able to tie into the existing septic tank of his grandads house as it was never perced? I keep seeing some of the comments about a soil map? I brought the soil scientist to the property and he dug some holes. I would check with the local Dept. We have 3 plots under one deed. soil testing, permitting, Installation, repairs, and maintenance Licensure Requirements for Tennessee Septic System Contractors Contractors of septic systems require a license which is issued by the Commissioner of the Department of Environment and Conservation. Timothy, On 10/27/21 he spent a total of twenty minutes on the property, dug one little hole, then messaged my son at work saying hed have to get a soil scientist. That is an engineering question, but I have seen drain fields be 1000+ feet from the actual septic tank. Hello, seems like your the person to answer this question. This adds to the up-front cost. Do you know of anyone else that works in Shelby County TN? Once a permit is granted, it is only valid until Rules of the Tennessee Department of Environment and Conservation. Thanks. There are 3 different soil types in the pasture areas, but the two I asked about would be the section of acreage that I would be using for disposal system, We are looking at a 5 acre tract to purchase and the environmental notes and map show a 3 bedroom perc site area. Septic Tank Specifications After the permit has been issued, any grading, filling or other site modifications that would adversely affect the sewage system may render the permit void. The state of Tennessee is concerned about protecting and improving the quality of its land, air, and water. All the drainage would be recycled sand system to properly be self sustainable and clean. It has to be done by a soil scientist or surveyor. All of it is very gently rolling, with no standing water and little if any erosion. No-one seems to be able to help at the Health Dept. 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